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    <title>Deconstruct - Episodes Tagged with “Great Recession”</title>
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  <title>The Father of CMBS Talks Origin Stories, Great Recession and Today's Distress</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>The Real Deal's Deconstruct podcast chats with the creator of commercial mortgage-backed securities, Ethan Penner.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <title>From The '90s to Now: Making Sense of CRE's Downturn</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>As distress descends on commercial real estate, Deconstruct analyzes how past financial crises can inform how borrowers, banks and policy makers handle this down cycle. 
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