Deconstruct

The Real Deal’s Suzannah Cavanaugh and Joe Lovinger break down the newest, biggest trends and concepts in real estate.

About the show

In Deconstruct, The Real Deal breaks down the most important ideas in real estate. We follow the money from Los Angeles to New York City to explain what investors, brokers and developers are focused on right now. This is essential listening for understanding the great, big world of real estate.

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Episodes

  • What Marijuana's Reclassifying Means For Pot Shops and Cannabis Capital

    May 6th, 2024  |  Season 3  |  21 mins 31 secs
    cannabis, dea, marijuana, reit, schedule i, schedule iii

    Last week, the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration said it would move toward reclassifying marijuana as a less dangerous drug — Schedule III instead of Schedule I. The move has big implications for the intersection of cannabis and real estate. Founder and CEO of cannabis REIT NewLake Capital Partners Anthony Coniglio talks tax relief and opportunity.

  • Looking at the Legislation Critical to Making Office-to-Residential Conversions Work

    April 29th, 2024  |  Season 3  |  32 mins 41 secs
    bobby fijan, business, commercial real estate, conversions, development, distress, financing, form developers, housing, investing, legislation, new york city, news, office, office-to-resi, office-to-residential, policy, real estate, real estate news, zoning

    The Real Deal's Deconstruct chats with Philadelphia-based developer Bobby Fijan of Form Developers about what legislation, policies, subsidies and programs have helped push forward office-to-residential conversions.

  • New York Finally Gets a Housing Deal

    April 22nd, 2024  |  Season 3  |  20 mins 13 secs
    albany, business, housing, housing construction, housing deal, investing, kathy hochul, multifamily, new york, new york city, news, real estate, real estate news

    Note: This episode was recorded before the state finalized a housing deal. For a detailed break down of what passed check out Senior Reporter Kathryn Brenzel's story here:

    After years of negotiations, Albany has finally fleshed out the framework for a housing deal. Tenants call it a give away to developers. Landlords have their own gripes with an intended boon for rent-stabilized owners. Deconstruct sits down with The Real Deal's Kathryn Brenzel to talk Gov. Kathy Hochul’s “parameters of a conceptual agreement.”

  • The Closing With CBRE's LA Head Lew Horne

    April 15th, 2024  |  Season 3  |  35 mins 51 secs
    business, cbre, commercial real estate, investing, lew horne, los angeles, office market, real estate, real estate news, the closing, the real deal

    The Real Deal spokes to CBRE's LA head, Lew Horne, about L.A.'s transfer taxes, the city's office market, his family and career. Deconstruct is airing an extended version of this interview, which appeared in the April issue of The Real Deal's magazine. To read the interview online, head to TheRealDeal.com.

  • Moody's Checks In on the Wall of Office Maturities

    April 8th, 2024  |  Season 3  |  21 mins 25 secs
    cmbs, debt, distress, foreclosures, loans, maturities, moody's, office, special servicing, wall of maturities

    The foretold wall of CMBS maturities has hit and early data on office loans signals the fears around repayments — that troubled owners won't be able to swing it — are being realized. Deconstruct talks with Moody's Analytics Senior Director and Head of CRE Economic Analysis Kevin Fagan and Director of CRE Economics Matt Reidy.

  • How Lender Kennedy Wilson Picks a Real Estate Development to Finance

    April 1st, 2024  |  Season 3  |  24 mins 51 secs
    business, construction, construction financing, debt origination, development, investing, kennedy wilson, lending, mezzanine financing, news, preferred equity, real estate, real estate and finance, real estate news

    The Real Deal's podcast Deconstruct looks at construction financing and how Kennedy Wilson, a lender in Los Angeles, is choosing which projects to lend on.

  • Breaking Down The NAR Settlement

    March 25th, 2024  |  Season 3  |  16 mins 51 secs
    broker commissions, business, commissions, home buying, housing, housing market, investing, lawsuits, mls, nar, national association of realtors, news, real estate, real estate news, residential real estate

    The Real Deal's podcast Deconstruct looks at the National Association of Realtors' $418 million settlement and the commission rules that are changing.

  • Congress v. Hedge Funds: Single-Family Rental Edition

    March 18th, 2024  |  Season 3  |  16 mins 52 secs
    blackstone, build-to-rent, congress, hedge funds, institutional investors, single-family rentals

    In December, Democrats in Congress introduced a bill that would put an end to hedge fund ownership of single-family homes. As demand for single-family rentals continues to grow, developers specializing in build-to-rent claim they'll get burnt. Deconstruct breaks down who's in the crosshairs and the likelihood that legislation can rein in the investment giants.

  • Have We Hit Bottom? A Price Check on Office

    March 11th, 2024  |  Season 3  |  27 mins 31 secs
    century city, chicago, downtown los angeles, fulton market, office, san francisco, the loop

    From Chicago to San Francisco, office buildings continue to trade at astonishing discounts and reappraisals show value declines as high as 80 percent. But is there further left to fall? The Real Deal's Chicago Bureau Chief Sam Lounsberry and West Coast Bureau Chief Isabella Farr weigh in.

  • Gil Dezer on Luxury Development, Financing and the South Florida Boom (Plus His Love For Cars)

    March 4th, 2024  |  Season 3  |  24 mins 57 secs
    business, capital markets, commercial real estate, condo market, construction financing, dezer development, gil dezer, investing, miami, new york city, news, porsche design tower, real estate, real estate news, south florida

    The Real Deal's podcast Deconstruct chatted with Gil Dezer of Dezer Development about developing high-end, luxury condo towers in South Florida, financing availability and why he'll always be bullish on Miami.

  • The Real Guy Behind StripMallGuy

    February 26th, 2024  |  Season 3  |  17 mins 14 secs
    commercial real estate, don tepman, real estate investing, strip malls, stripmallguy, university avenue partners

    If you're on RETwit (now Real Estate X), you've probably read Don Tepman's posts. You just didn't know it. Tepman, who heads University Avenue Partners, is StripMallGuy, the once anonymous X account that amassed over 200k followers since 2021. Tepman, now unmasked, sits down with Deconstruct to talk why he went public and of course, what's next for strip malls.

  • The Short-Seller And The REIT: Inside Arbor Realty Trust's CLOs

    February 19th, 2024  |  Season 3  |  29 mins 14 secs
    arbor realty trust, business, capital markets, commercial real estate, investing, multifamily, new york city, news, real estate, real estate news, reit, sun belt, syndication

    The Real Deal's Deconstruct looks at Arbor Realty Trust's earnings and speaks to Viceroy Research's Gabriel Bernarde about short selling Arbor's stock.

  • Unpacking The CRE CLO

    February 12th, 2024  |  Season 3  |  24 mins 20 secs
    business, capital markets, clo, cmbs, collateralized debt obligation, commercial real estate, investing, multifamily, new york city, news, real estate, real estate news, syndicator

    The Real Deal's podcast Deconstruct digs into the commercial real estate collateralized loan obligation, or CRE CLO.

  • New York Community Bank: Canary in the Coal Mine for CRE Pain?

    February 5th, 2024  |  Season 3  |  22 mins 17 secs
    distress, earnings, loans, losses. commercial real estate, nycb, office, regional banks, rent stabilization

    New York Community Bank reported a surprise loss in the fourth quarter, took an axe to its dividend and socked away over $500 million for commercial real estate losses. The bank's stock sunk to a 23-year low and other regional lenders fell in response. Is NYCB a red flag or a one-off for CRE distress in the banking space? Deconstruct digs in.

  • Brokerage Head Kyle Matthews On What's Next For Commercial Real Estate Across The Sun Belt

    January 29th, 2024  |  Season 3  |  33 mins 32 secs
    brokerage, business, commercial real estate, distress, investing, matthews real estate, multifamily, nashville, news, office, real estate, real estate agent, real estate news, sun belt

    The Real Deal podcast Deconstruct chatted with Kyle Matthews, the CEO of Matthews Real Estate Services, about starting his own brokerage and where he sees the Sun Belt's commercial real estate sector heading in 2024.

  • A Private Equity Head on Investment Opportunity in "Transitional" 2024

    January 22nd, 2024  |  Season 3  |  28 mins 48 secs
    2024, capital markets, cold storage, commercial real estate, investment, office, private equity, single-family rentals

    Heading into 2024, rate cuts are the silver lining on everyone’s mind. Still, Ron Dickerman, founder and president of private equity firm Madison International Realty, sees 2024 as a “transitional year.” As capital cautiously comes off the sidelines, Dickerman talks opportunity in the wall of maturities and which asset classes he’s eyeing. Hint: Cold storage is on the come-up